I've been playing ultimate for 9 years and have been on the constant search for the perfect shorts for just as long. I've tried all of the big name Ultimate brands so far, and haven't been fully pleased with any of them yet. I'm so glad I found these shorts. The material is lightweight, breathable, and the stitching and drawstring feel like they are high quality (I've only had them a couple weeks so far, so I can't speak to their durability yet). The length of the -2-inch is perfect for me, and my butt and quads look phenomenal. There is just enough room to not be too tight, while also being loose enough to feel comfortable. For reference, I am a short (5'3") non-binary person (AFAB) with muscular legs and slim waist (115 lbs). I got a size S and a size M. The size S fits like a glove and the size M is loose but still wearable if I give the waistband a roll.